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Hello community,
I got a message from Aimsplode of en.uncyclopedia.co. If anyone wants to contribute, please do it here.

The original message:
Hi Zyniker, I'm a bureaucrat at Uncyclopedia and wanted to stop by and see if you folks were having any issues. I have heard there may be some problems with DPL not working properly, and possibly outdated interwiki links, among other things (such as the incorrect article count on your pain page). Let me know how you're doing and what we can do to help, or if this message would be better directed towards a different administrator. Thanks! :) → (talk) 01:27 9 Juni 2019

If anyone wantss to contribute, please do it under the line -- Zyniker (Diskussion) 00:17, 9. Jun. 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Aimsplode, there are in fact several Interwikis which arent working. Unfortunately no one here in this Wiki is really fit enough in phpp or has the time to learn it.
The counter shows only the amount of articles which were written since we moved to here. -- Zyniker (Diskussion) 00:17, 9. Jun. 2019 (UTC)

Hey Zyn! Thanks for moving this to the forum. I am working on our own interwiki links currently and intend to have them all pointing properly by the end of this week, perhaps sooner depending on how long it takes to reach out. Then, I will copy that list over here so the interwikis should be set.

As for the page count, that is an interesting issue indeed. I will have to poke around and see what I can do. Do you or your users use Discord? There is an UnMeta server for cross-language communication - we'd love to have you folks in it, and it would definitely make communication easier. Let me know if there are other issues and I can look into them as well. → (talk) 01:27 9 Juni 2019

Hi again Aimsplode! No idea if someone here is using Discord. I don't use it (yet) and was a while out of anything here. Was more or less reactivated through the menacing extinction by Wikia. I'll check it out throughout the next days (will be pretty busy). Greetings from the Midwest -- Zyniker (Diskussion) 02:26, 9. Jun. 2019 (UTC)

I suspect that it's possible for a bureaucrat to go to Special:Interwiki to fix the interlanguage links, but Benutzer:Ichbinich is the only active bureaucrat and he hasn't posted here in a week?

Learning php won't help as fixing the rest of these issues requires access to the server command line - so Benutzer:Lyrithya could do this (as she has control of the server), but an individual admin on this wiki could not.

Fixing the page count would require running these commands directly on the server:

php maintenance/refreshLinks.php

php maintenance/initSiteStats.php --active --update

The number of pages is calculated by MediaWiki scanning through every page (a slow process) to see which are mainspace, longer than a stub and contain at least one valid blue link.

It might also be worth asking that this be added to LocalSettings.php to allow all sysops to fix interwiki links:

$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['interwiki'] = true;

Again, only someone with actual control of the server could do this. I'm seeing the same problems with interwiki links on most of the *.uncyclopedia.co sites, except for es: and maybe cs: where the bureaucrats have at least tried to fix the mess. What's there now was imported from Wikia when the wiki was moved here, so evidently it's all wrong. I'm able to change Special:Interwiki on uncyclopedia.ca and uncyclopedia.info, but I can do nothing here and nothing on fr: (which is annoying, as I have been admin there since 2005). And yes, fr: should be https://desencyclopedie.org or https://fr.uncyclopedia.co Carlb (Diskussion) 00:37, 7. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

Zyniker: As carlb points out, any bureaucrat should be able update the interwiki links on Special:Interwiki, including the languages, no php needed. If this turns out to be an issue overall, however, or you ever need anything looked into or have questions about these things (can we do blah thing in any way, can you add functionality blah, this page isn't working, etc), please feel free to ping me or Aimsplode or Benutzer:Jack Phoenix and we'll be happy to see what we can do/find someone who can help/figure out who should be doing what. Linking someone's userpage in any signed message (as long as you're not using a template signature) should send them a notification, but to be sure it might be worth leaving a talkpage message too, as that's apt to be properly reliable. (Except Jack Phoenix's account might be broken, so he might have to go fix that first.)

Anyway, I'll look into the stats thing. Thanks for bringing that up. Please let us know if there's other stuff like that as well! Lyrithya (Diskussion) 01:51, 7. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

Lyrithya, I'm still seeing the issues with categories not being fully populated, for instance meta:fr:Catégorie:BestOf (scroll w-a-a-a-y down to « Articles dans la catégorie "BestOf" ») lists 118 featured pages of everything from A to dÉ, then only sparse listings beyond that. The categories were never populated properly on import; they're just showing whatever pages have been manually edited since the move. (I'd null-edited a few at the beginning just to get something to appear as featured in the DPL box on the main page. The contents of the partially-populated category reflects this). The same sort of thing is likely happening for other DPL instances which are driven by page-in-category style queries. Would this help?:

php maintenance/populateCategory.php --force

Also, when you say "any" bureaucrat, at best there might only be one still around. On de: that's Special:Contributions/Ichbinich (last active end-June), on fr: that's meta:fr:Spécial:Contributions/Thaumasnot (last active end-April, final post translates roughly to "from what I've read, the lack of redirection from the old address is a decision of Wikia/Fandom. They must turn red with shame each time one mentions that we were on their site."). Effectively, no one else can do anything about Special:Interwiki locally. Is there an e-mail address to contact Benutzer:Ichbinich directly?

I'm also seeing that "alternate" domain names are losing their path when they redirect; so https://fr.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Special:RecentChanges should go to recent changes, but instead lands on desencyclopedie.org's main page (Accueil). Not sure what's up with that; something like this in Apache's config should work:

<VirtualHost *:80>

ServerName fr.uncyclopedia.co

ServerAlias miroir.desencyclopedie.org

Redirect / https://desencyclopedie.org/

</VirtualHost>

That issue isn't affecting de: yet (as the battle to recover uncyclopedia.de's domain name may drag on for months or more) but does affect other wikis on your site. carlb 'at' kingston.net (Diskussion) 15:51, 7. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

Carlb: Hi, please stop bringing up issues on other wikis than the ones they affect. I think I've already explained this several times (unless you never actually brought this up on fr, in which case there's a chance I might have just told you to put it in the right place or ignored you those times as well - do please learn how to submit bugs under the correct projects), but this is a fr-specific issue caused by how fr uses DPL and will not be fixed. Categories added via DPL will no longer be registered with MediaWiki due to DPL being treated as a presentation-only extension for performance and security reasons. Running maintenance scripts will not change this. And it looks like the rest of your issues also about fr, so... again, please stop bringing things up on random other wikis if you want to be taken seriously. Thanks. Lyrithya (Diskussion) 14:17, 8. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

(General note to anyone else, though, if you want check any of that here and verify if it does apply here, please do let me know what needs fixing. Lyrithya (Diskussion) 14:17, 8. Jul. 2019 (UTC))

Bureaucrats at least should get this, with the "Bearbeiten, Löschen" links, if installed correctly

There is nothing for me to edit on that special page, it reads that changes for the Interwiki settings have to be performed in the source code of the Wiki and I don't have access to that source code.--Ichbinich (Diskussion) 02:05, 9. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lyrithya (and all others) I was offline for a few days, simply total lack of time what happens from time to time. It may be that bureaicrats are able to change a thing but I'm not one of them. -- Zyniker (Diskussion) 00:19, 13. Jul. 2019 (UTC)

Lyrithya could fix that by adding one line to all of the configuration files to give sysops on her sites full access to Special:Interwiki:

$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['interwiki'] = true;

Carlb (Diskussion) 19:24, 13. Jul. 2019 (UTC)